Life working at a funeral home-??

I’m surprised I don’t drink and or self medicate! Ugh…

Will post soon.
Hope everyone is doing well.

4 Responses to “Life working at a funeral home-??”

  1. Hi there Bizz.

    I’ve just caught up on your blog and what a pleasure it was to read too. Took my mind off being ill. (I have flu 😦 )

    Sounds like some people are still absolute idiots not turning up, not listening etc. In particular the one that wanted the letter from you in half an hour then turned up 3 hours later with no explanation. What a dick! lol

    Some differences I have noticed in the U.K is that luncheon in a funeral home is unheard of. (You’d love it Bizz, hahaha) We just wouldn’t so much a bring a cupcake to a visitation… We do however have visitation for up to a week. They are laid out and coffined usually the day they arrive, and most homes here have individual private chapels of rest where they stay until their service. Family can come every day if they want, to sit with them or talk to them but because there is no lunch, friends and family will not be there long and it is only to see their loved one.

    When my grandfather passed my Nanna went every day to see him. The funeral staff didn’t mind as they didn’t have to do anything, but that’s very common over here. Unless they are very busy or don’t have individual chapels of course, but many will advertise on their signs so you are less restricted for visiting during office hours. Sat or Sun visits are always by appointment only and usually charged more.

    Another thing we do here (if cremation) is donate funeral flowers after the funeral to hospices so others can enjoy them and before they wilt (and in the funeral homes way) The nurses will put what they can in vases and put them round the hospice. If a burial they are left on the grave after it’s filled in whilst the headstone is being made. I suppose they would last a lot longer here as the weather is not as extreme and it’s usually raining.

    Families don’t fight over death certificates either but you do need one in order for a funeral to take place. If a family member wants a copy it is very easy for them to get Birth/death/marriage/adoption etc can all be ordered on an official government website. You don’t have to be family. Anyone can ask for anything. It takes 10 minutes, you pay £9.25 per cert ($14.22) and they are posted to you. Do you have something similar in the U.S?

    The banks can also pay the funeral home directly out the deceased bank account if the family are struggling to get the cash together.

    Also this is how our paperwork works… (prepare to be thrilled as I know how much you love paperwork.) 😀

    A death (medical) certificate may be issued by a doctor who has provided care during the last illness and who has seen the deceased within 14 days of death. They should be confident about the cause of death. This is done as soon as death occurs.

    The death certificate is given to the next of kin who is required to deliver it to the Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages within five days.

    If the Registrar decides that the death does not need reporting to the Coroner he will issue:

    A Certificate for Burial or Cremation
    A Certificate of Registration of Death (for Social Security purposes)
    (On request), copies of the Death Register (at least two copies advisable because banks and insurance companies expect to see them).

    If reported to the coroner:-

    The coroner may decide that the cause of death is clear. In this case:

    The doctor signs a medical certificate.
    You take the medical certificate to the registrar.
    The coroner issues a certificate to the registrar stating a post-mortem isn’t needed.

    If a post mortem is needed:-

    The coroner will release the body for a funeral once they have completed the post-mortem examinations and no further examinations are needed.

    If the body is released with no inquest, the coroner will send a form (‘Pink Form – form 100B’) to the registrar stating the cause of death.

    The coroner will also send a ‘Certificate of Coroner – form Cremation 6’ if the body is to be cremated.

    If there is an inquest:-

    You can’t register the death until after the inquest. The coroner is responsible for sending the relevant paperwork to the registrar.

    The death can’t be registered until after the inquest, BUT the coroner can give you an interim death certificate to prove the person is dead. You can use this to let organisations know of the death and apply for probate.

    When the inquest is over the coroner will tell the registrar what to put in the register.

    This (I think) is different to the U.S and a bit easier and quicker or have I miss understood? It’s a bit of a minefield trying to compare the two countries….(esp with I hope you have enjoyed reading how we do stuff over the pond and wonder what is different to the U.S.

    Hope you are well and loved the tip of the day post! You could write them on a white board behind you in your office…hahaha. Mine would probably say most of the time “I’m here to help so don’t be a knob. Thanks” 😉

    Speak soon. SB. xxx

    • Hey there!
      It seems you guys do your death certificates differently.. It is confusing to compare the two.
      Here, once a person has passed, we gather the information from the family that we type into the death cert. We also have to find who the doctor is who will be signing it. Sometimes a slip of paper will accompany the body to funeral home that will have the doctor listed other times we have to call medical records dept at facility where person passed. Once we have that info, we have to contact that doctor to find out when he/she is available to sign the death cert. We have to take it to them. Once it is signed we can then take it to the clerks office and file it and obtain cert copies for the family.
      If the body is at the Medical Examiner’s (coroner office), then the medical examiner automatically sign it. Typically if a person passes away at home and has not been under the care of a doctor then the Medical Examiner will automatically take possession of the body and perform an autopsy, same if the person was young and passed away other than at a hospital or sometimes if someone passes in the Emergency Room.
      For all cremations the cremation permit must be approved by the county Medical Examiner. So regardless of who signs the death cert the M.E still must approve the cremation. So once we do get a signature from a doctor, we must fax a copy of that death cert to the M.E so they can issue a permit.
      Luckily, our county is starting to switch over to Electronic filing!! Not all clerks offices are on board yet and all doctors are not either, but…we can fax it to the doctor and they can fax it back and we can scan it and then finish it electronically. We havent started doing it yet, but will be soon.
      As far as burial permits, we type and sign them here at the funeral home, as long as its signed by a funeral director it’s good to go.
      In my state death certificates are public record, so anyone should be able to request a death certificate at a clerks office, pay the fee and receieve a death cert. Sometimes there are those clerks offices that feel they dont have to give anyone but family a death cert…i dont know why that is.. But, most of the time when a family wants more cert copies than they originally ordered when we obtained them for them, they always want us to get them for them. We use to always do this…up until about a year ago. Since herem death certs are filed in the city in which the person passed, if that particular city does not have a clerks office it then files at the county clerks office. So, if its filed at the city clerks office most of the time its at a city which is local and the family could easily go get their own. If its at the county, well our county clerk’s office is not real far away but far enough and right in the middle of a very large city.. So alot of people dont wanna go there. We began charging the cost of the desth certs and about $10 for us to do it.. And if its filed at the county then we will not make a special trip, we tell them we wont go until we have to go, the next time we get one that files there. People can also just go online and request them, they can pay by credit card, mail in payment…but nope, noone here wants to do anything for themselves! Irritates the crap outta me! Same with life insurance. If a family is not even doing an insurance assignment with the funeral home but they are submitting a life ins policy on their own, most of the time they will bring in that policy and the claim forms they receive and want us to help them fill them out! Yes, some forms are confusing, but if you just read over it, its clear what needs to be done! Then…they want us to mail them for them too!
      Its good to hear from you tho!! Hope all is well!!

      • Good to hear from you too Bizz. Well the electronic filing sounds cool. So people make you do all that when they could do it online. Wow!!!

        I’m OK Bizz. Just a bit frustrated with my job at the moment as it ties up all my time so I can’t train in the funeral bizz. I will e-mail you regarding my work as it could be a long rant…Or I might put something on my blog to fill you in. The words will not be pretty…Well, they might be long as I get really eloquent when I get mad. One of my weirdisms… Either way, it will be a sarcastic affair.

        I have however become quite good at baking and though I make bread at work, I can make cake at home and here is a recipe you might be interested in…

      • Rant on!! Let it out!
        Thank you for the recipie…it sounds delicious, i will let you know how it turns out once i make it.

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